Parent Thread | Copy. Which tube line from Kings Cross to Paddington? Is Cornwall The Poorest Country In Europe. Today's topic: The floating syllable. I have an ancestor who went from Venice to England in the late 1500s. and its tied to how rhotic the accent is. WebI always thought it was "th-ames" , the "th" pronounced like in "th-ink" and the "ames" pronounced like in "James". as you will see below in this thread, different parts of the English speaking world pronounce words differently. Languages Evolve, why don't we speak like Shakespeare? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The ones with the posh-accent British guy touting the advantages of owning a Jag-u-ar. I'm sure I've heard it pronounced differently to how we say it- mi-ra. actually it's more like jag-u-a than jag-u-are. That one is actually said the way it is spelled though. The PLA allows swimming to take place upriver of Putney Bridge through to Teddington. I was there at night - briefly - the place creeped us out so much that we got the heck out of there as soon as we could. In 980 the Vikings were back, occupying London until 1014 when Ethelred accompanied by the Norseman, Olaf, recaptured the City. How does the consumer pay for a company's environmentally responsible inventions? True or false, anybody? The classic example of this is vehemently, which I pronouncedwith full vigorvah-hem-en-ent-ly (yes, I added several new letters to the word). Reference questions answered here. Which is the most cleanest river in the world? WebThe pronunciation of Thames as Tems. Are you sure you want to delete this item? do u do the Y in mary silent so its said as marlebone ?? "Chiswick" is pronounced "Chez-ick." YES, tems-- guess I didn't make myself clearsorry. .and the town of Thame is pronounced Tame. Harry Potter Studio Tour London Gift Shop, Inexpensive, but good, restaurants near Victoria Station. There are two rules to keep in mind. This may refer to generally agreed-upon sequences of sounds used in speaking a given word or language in a specific dialect (correct pronunciation) or simply the way a particular individual speaks a word or language. My personal pet peeve was Kate Jackson on the old Lincoln Mercury ads where instead of "mer-cure-ee" she pronounced it as "mer-ker-ee" or, even worse "mer-kree". Thames the breaks. A generational thing? Thames River, London The Thames River in London tops the chart of the cleanest river in the world. True or false, anybody? This word was then adopted by the French, who translated the term in their own language, converted the word colonnello to the word coronel. The Thames may be free of much toxic waste these days, but it has one of the higher concentrations of microplastics in the world, reportedly ahead of other urban waterways such as the Chicago River and the Danube in Europe, according to a study from British scientists last year. My University mascot is a jaguardo I need to start changing everyone's pronunciation down here to match the (to me, irritating) commercial? I love this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTjeoQ8gRmQ, I live near the Thames River in southeastern Connecticut, and watch a lot of British TV (Doctor Who + Top Gear FTW), and the "unexpected" pronunciation always bugs me :\. This gave rise to the Old French zede, which resulted in the English zed around the 15th century. "Chiswick" is pronounced "Chez-ick." The name Tamyse was popular in Anglo-Saxon times but it has been known as Thames since c. 1600. It was made up by someone from Essex trying to spell river (or cold blue wobbly thing as it's known here). The Thames is first mentioned in English around 893 in King Alfred the Greats Orosius. Locals here conveniently forget to pronounce the alphabet T while conversing. In the U.S., youre likely more apt to skip the middle syllable and cut to the chase by saying car-muhl. (mostly because of *this* thread). It boasts its source as the Himalayas, but the river gets more polluted as it moves. This is the version of our website addressed to speakers of English in United Kingdom. River in both instances is just river.Thames is pronounced as temz in England, Canada and new Zealand. And how about nucuelar for nuclear? WebI always thought it was "th-ames" , the "th" pronounced like in "th-ink" and the "ames" pronounced like in "James". Members who are knowledgeable about this destination and volunteer their time to answer travelers' questions. What School Is Called The Harvard Of The West? How do you pronounce the river Thames? Greenwich Greenwich ( (listen) GREN-itch, GRIN-ij, GRIN-itch, or GREN-ij) is an area of South East London, England, located 5.5 miles (8.9 km) east-southeast of Charing Cross. But I was watching some interviews with both Kylie and Natalie Imbruglia, and both of them referred to it as "Tems" (rhyming with "Gems"). It's the. and my co-workers (one of whom is a Brit) are looking at me funny. T: Pavement refers to the paved area of the road thats designed exclusively for pedestrians. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. Im sure people have said that and I havent noticed. Actually, I haven't often heard it pronounced differently, though im from NZ, so maybe we're just weird. No advertising or spamming is permitted. Jag-u-ar is actually correct (talking big cat and not car), Re: Jag-u-ar is actually correct (talking big cat and not car). Questions must have a definitive answer. Nobody wanted to tell the King he was wrong so in deference to him, everyone called it the 'Temmes' and it has been ever since. Anyone who says "Or-ree-gun" is clearly from the East. (tmz) a river in S England, rising in the Cotswolds in several headstreams and flowing generally east through London to the North Sea by a large estuary. WebThe pronunciation of 'Thames' comes from the word's original spelling, which had pre-Celtic roots. Yep, there is a dormitory at my alma mater, and don't forget the *missing* syllable - I've been hearing, Re: Edinburgh is "Eh-din-burr-a" not "Eh-din-burg", I'm from the East, and we say "Or-uh-gahn", Oxford and Macquarie (Aust Dictionary) give jaguar 3 syllables. / temz/. No one has come close to getting the regional pronunciation of the state correct for Merlin, so I thought I would add it. First he says breftist instead of breakfast, secondly he says Philidelthia instead of Philidelphia and lastly he uses the expression fixing to all the time only he says fisking to it drives me crazy! Where Can You Swim? So if youve been pronouncing it that way this whole time, congratulations youve been right! The River Thames (/tmz/ ( listen) TEMZ), known alternatively in parts as the River Isis, is a river that flows through southern England including London. However, what I do know now is that north east England is famous for its English accent and is commonly referred to as the drop T area. WebHow to pronounce the Thames noun in British English. Marylebone (to me) is Marlebone, but some will say Marlybn. Wiki User. My suspicion (and thus the story) is that Amos arrived at Ellis Island, they asked him his name, and he said Thames (like Tims) and they wrote down TIMMS. (Source: 84, Charing Cross Road by Helene Hanff, Page 160.). Refresh | ;). And how do Americans say mirror? First, the "Th" is not pronounced as it would usually be in English, like in the word "thought". Change). WebThe pronunciation of Thames as Tems. Is it the Thames river or the River Thames? For medical advice, always consult your medical doctor. This drives me absolutely nuts. If you are a resident of another country or region, please select the appropriate version of Tripadvisor for your country or region in the drop-down menu. Hostel/Hotel Near Liverpool Street Station. Will someone who says "Itly" and "Jag-u-ar" please report here as to how and why they started pronouncing like this? One, its clearly Thames, as in James with a lisp. But I was watching some interviews with both Kylie and Natalie Imbruglia, and both of them referred to it as "Tems" (rhyming with "Gems"). Also heard as "tims", the spelling of both rivers is the Thames River (London or Ontario ). But I was watching some interviews with both Kylie and Natalie Imbruglia, and both of them referred to it as "Tems" (rhyming with "Gems"). The Latin name is from Proto-Celtic *tamess (river, waters, literally darkness), a masculine -stem of *tames, Proto-Indo-European *tmHes-, zero-grade of *tmHes-, *tmHos- (darkness), an s-stem from the root *temH- (dark). us. That Jaguar commerical was messing with my son's head.. Bullying, racism, personal attacks, harassment, or discrimination is prohibited. Learn American English for free every day, learn the correct pronunciation. Since when is there a long "I" sound? Its actually pronounced temmz, where the vowel rhymes with pen. River Thames (United Kingdom) Correct pronunciation: Tems. Simply put, the river's name has always been pronounced 'tems', with a simple 't' sound. (English pronunciations of the Thames from the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary & Thesaurus and from the Cambridge Academic Content Dictionary, both sources Cambridge University Press) Oh no, riverse out of this dead end. Chit-Chat I've been known to pronounce it both ways From *Eng-a-land swings like a pendulum do* perhaps. My family are all word-weirdos, and one of the things we do is deliberately mangle things sometimes: we do actually say "War-chest-er-shy-er," as a family in-joke, and "Puh-ter-a-dack-till" (Pteradactyl) or "Pee-sy-keye-a-trist" (Psychiatrist). Its headwaters are in the north-east of Zambia, between Lake Tanganyika and Lake Nyasa (Malawi), 1760 metres above sea level; it flows into the Atlantic Ocean. Wiki User. Since BMW is just a three-letter word, people tend to pronounce it in the English version bee em double yoo. A friend of mine from West Virginia tells me that the plural is "y'all" and the singular is "y'un". Here in Britain, when we say across the pond or the other side of the pond we might be referring to the Atlantic Ocean and the United States. (That's. So, we drop the first R, and the vowel in that syllable is the UH as in PUSH vowel, wo-, wo-. WebThe River Thames (/ t m z / TEMZ), known alternatively in parts as the River Isis, is a river that flows through southern England including London. I must admit I have difficulty w/ Gloucester. When I saw the thread title, I immediately thought of people saying "a whole nother" instead of "a whole other" or whatever--that's a really floating syllable! I think I have my Halloween costume idea! (The German name for the Thames is It is the river that runs Such errors were common, and many words that had nothing to do with Greek were respelled to make them look Greek; two other examples are author (ultimately from Latin auctor) and Anthony (from Latin Antonius), with the h added as if these were based on Greek words with a theta (th) in them. Yes, there. What did the Romans call the River Thames? The pronunciation of Thames is often confusing for foreign speakers because it is counter-intuitive. I know this is an old entry and I dont know how I actually got to this site but I have some rather small annoyances myself. But I have been told by frequent users of this term that it's ya'll, which makes no sense to me at all because the apostrophe is supposed to take the place of the missing letter(s). Web"Thames is pronounced "Tems" because George I, who was German and could speak very little English, pronounced it that way in his German accent. First of all, it seems like the apostrophe should be after the Y: y'all. I actually like the emphasis on on Jag-u-ar. Simply put, the rivers name has always been pronounced tems, with a simple t sound. Before the Romans came it was called Tems but the Romans latinised it and called it Tamesis. 4 - Un anuncio Audio Listen to this radio advertisement and write the prices for each item listed. So the UK pronunciation is quite close to that, actually . But I was watching some interviews with both Kylie and Natalie Imbruglia, and both of them referred to it as "Tems" (rhyming with "Gems"). Seems to me that it's neither ham-uck or ham-ick, but something in between, using the schwa (that upside-down e in the dictionary pronunciation guides). I say "Want the W sauce with that?" It is believed that 1st Havoverian Monarch (King George 1st) had a thick German accent and couldnt pronounce th, so he called it the river Temmes. Train travel in Britain on the day of a scheduled strike, London to Dover to Calais to London in a Day, Oyster Card for Kids 11-15 from Heathrow to London City, Help with 9 days itinerary - London and (?where else), Travel from Heathrow airport to London City Airport quickly. And somewhere along the way his name went from "tah-lee-a-FER-ro" (Taliaferro) to "TALL-i-ver." At 215 miles (346 km), it is the longest river entirely in England and the second-longest in the United Kingdom, after the River Severn. Thames is pronounced as temz to rhyme with shemz, unless you mean the one in Connecticut, which is pronounced Thames. I'm so glad I'm not the only one! Is there any word that youd change the spelling of if you were in charge of the dictionary? Of course, she was just an irratating person all the way around, so "draw" for drawer :) It always sounded like a speech impediment! How do you pronounce Thames Street in Newport? Forum Here's a quote from the American Heritage Dictionary: Etymology The modern spelling of the word Thames illustrates an interesting I had one of THOSE mothers. Simply put, the river's name has always been pronounced 'tems', with a simple 't' sound. William and Mary, that is spelled Taliaferro, but pronounced Tolliver. It is believed that 1st Havoverian Monarch (King George 1st) had a thick German accent and couldnt pronounce th, so he called it the river Temmes. Answerbag wants to provide a service to people looking for answers and a good conversation. Usage explanations of natural written and spoken English. I think we all have a few words like that. Origin Of Name. Coming from Hanover he spoke virtually no English, he tried to pronounce the name of the river running through the City, but always ended up referring to it as de Temms". in Singapore, Malaysian and IndianEnglish. Holly, Gloucester is (to me) pronounced Gloster. James Hogg 2014-02-18 22:15:17 UTC. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. WebHow to pronounce the Thames noun in British English. I always thought it was "th-ames" , the "th" pronounced like in "th-ink" and the "ames" pronounced like in "James". The Thames is derived from a Middle English term, Temese, which is also derived from the Brittonic Celtic name, Tamesas, which could mean dark. Thames the breaks. Thames is pronounced as temz to rhyme with shemz, unless you mean the one in Connecticut, which is pronounced Thames. Now Latin is a dead language not worth learning, and so now we have learned, influential, authoritative people saying ECK-CETERA instead of ET-CETERA. And as we're on pronunciation, a shire is NEVER a shire it's a shure or a sheer. As a German, the "th" was difficult for him to pronounce and he pronounced it as "Tems". Thames. Oh no, riverse out of this dead end. Why Are Oxford Summer Courses So Expensive? The word in the example sentence does not match the entry word. That one is actually said the way it is spelled though. That one is actually said the way it is spelled though. Some other odd pronunciations do, though. Before the Romans came it was called Tems but the Romans latinised it and called it Tamesis. WebThe original meaning of the name Thames is unclear, but it may have meant "dark" or "muddied". At 215 miles (346 km), it is the longest river entirely in England and the second-longest in the United Kingdom, after the River Severn. BC Day supplies in the Store plus a free gift! The pronunciation of Thames comes from the words original spelling, which had pre-Celtic roots. 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